Mary is Just a Normal Saint, Like Everyone Else…Isn’t She?

A listener wrote in to the Channel:

Dear Clare,

What I am gonna write is really important, for you and for your subscribers, so please read it and answer it if possible. Yesterday I went to your heartdwellers-website and read from “Chronicles of the Bride” the chapter called “The Father’s tree house”. When I came to the passage where Yahshua told you to go to his mom and dad, there was a red flag in my spirit. As I continued reading I read that Mary was Yahshua’s mom and had made cookies and that you also met the Father in the tree house. After reading this I was very confused. Because I know that Mary is NOT Yahshua’s mother. Not even in a spiritual sense. She was just his mother when he was on Earth, but in Heaven she is just a normal saint like the others and she doesn’t hold any special position as Yahshua’s mother.

 Clare answered her:

Those who have told you these opinions, are gravely mistaken and unfamiliar with the Bible: Luke 1 Scripture has it that “From now on all generations will call me blessed.”


Mary Visits Elizabeth

At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!”

Mary’s Song

And Mary said:

“My soul glorifies the Lord

and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

for he has been mindful

of the humble state of his servant.

From now on all generations will call me blessed,

for the Mighty One has done great things for me—

holy is his name.

His mercy extends to those who fear him,

from generation to generation.

He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;

he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.

He has brought down rulers from their thrones

but has lifted up the humble.

He has filled the hungry with good things

but has sent the rich away empty.

He has helped his servant Israel,

remembering to be merciful

to Abraham and his descendants forever,

just as he promised our ancestors.”

Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.

I understand that you esteem these other pastors around the world, but I only follow Jesus, I do not base any of my teachings on what others are saying. I base them on first hand experience and on verified accounts from the Lord that are confirmed by our team of discerners. Thank you for being concerned though. You might want to look at some of the videos, 38 in all, that are strictly on discernment. And there is another one

How the Lord delivered Me from a Religious Spirit and Bigotry

You will find that this is much more common in the community of Christians than is thought. There is a great deal of ignorance about the early church and what the apostles believed and taught. Our roots go back to the first century church, way before the reformation. If you read our page intro you will see that Holy Spirit has led us into many different experiences in different denominations because we were so ill taught and biased.

That is why our channel is for Lover’s of Jesus, people who are intent on loving Him and not arguing doctrine, for it is written that now we see through a glass darkly.

In the end…we have to discern one another by the Spirit and the Fruit. If we base our discernment on the testimonies of others amazing experiences, we run the risk of being deceived. That is why we base our teachings on Scripture and not startling and amazing experiences. We share our experiences but they ALL fall into line with Scripture. There is nothing contradicting Scripture but there is much contradicting evangelical and fundamentalist thinking and opinion.

Also if we are following a teacher and growing deeper in our relationship with the Lord and exhibiting the fruits of that growth we should have good reason to trust their sources. If we are growing weak in our relationship then we should re-examine our sources veracity. There are no shortcuts (men’s opinions) for discernment, it’s a hard business and has to be gutted out.

A good tree cannot bear bad fruit.

You said: “I read several testimonies of Christians who visited heaven (for example “Heaven is so real” by Choo Thomas), and in these testimonies Yahshua showed them Mary and explained that she is a normal saint and not his mother. Moreover, I felt uncomfortable when I read about your encounter with Father God. In all other testimonies of heaven and hell I read (for example “Baptize by Blazing Fire”, “Heaven is so real”, “Revelation of heaven and hell”, etc.) Father God sat always on his throne and was veeeeeeryyyy tall that one can’t even see his face, you can only see his big feet and legs sitting on the throne and when you look up you see rainbow and clouds.”

Father God is SO very tired of this stereotype sweetheart. So very tired of it. And for those who are innocent and childlike He is a wonderful, kindly God. Father God is a sweetheart with His Son’s Bride and with little children. He’s the big God to those who believe in and expect the Big God, but He’s an absolute sweetheart with those who are innocent, childlike and pure.

The Lord said that those who love Me will obey Me and I and My Father will come and dwell in them. That means God the Father lives in us. He is an absolute dear…, I wrote a song about Him, “Come to Me”

Again, it is safer to verify every word with Scripture and Scripture does not support a God who’s legs only can be seen. Scripture paints quite a different picture of the Father. see John 14.

Hope this helps to clarify what we believe.

Much Love to you JB,



10 thoughts on “Mary is Just a Normal Saint, Like Everyone Else…Isn’t She?

  1. Robert Rawlings

    There is also the great sign of the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon at her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head – who is in great travail giving birth to her son, in the last days Revelation ch 12. Protestants have absolutely no way to correctly discern and understand this vision, because of their mistaken rejection of the Blessed Virgin’s very exalted position in heaven, which has been seen and attested by so many of the great Catholic Saints. And yet clearly this can only be Mary. And she is giving birth to a son, who is immediately caught up into heaven and given an iron sceptre. We know that this is Jesus Christ. But why is this appearing in the vision of the last days, when it happened 2000 years ago? The answer is that even today, among Rosary-praying Catholics at least, she is still in great travail, giving birth to the “body of Christ” which is the Church of holy and faithful believers – which will be “caught up into heaven” in the Rapture – to live and rule with Him – and to escape from the great Dragon, the devil. And he will then go after the REST of HER CHILDREN: Those who hold to the testimony of Jesus and obey the 10 Commandments of God. And these will be those Protestants who did previously reject her due to their denominational errors and pride – as well as Messianic Jewish believers converted to Jeshua in the last days.

  2. Day

    You know for those who are interested and still doubt that Mother Mary is the Mother of God and want more proof:

    -Mother Mary has appeared to people warning them about the end times and how the freemasons were going to overthrow the catholic church (as seen with the vatican today) (and those who study about secret societies should know by now how freemasonry worships satan and how they want to make the new world order) look up, our lady of fatima, and mother mariana our lady of good success.

    -In Our Lady of Garabundal Mother Mary told one of the girls how there is going to be a ‘ warning’; where everyone is going to see the state of their souls. This is something even non catholics of other christian denominations have also received visions from God about (see the connection)

    -The catholic saints bodies as physical proof when they died their bodies were in a state of incorruptibility-scientists that didn’t even believe in christ have testified that these miracles are true and most of them have seen the apparitions of Mother Mary (saint bernadette our lady of lourdes.)

    -There are many books about the saints especially purgatory (purgatory is real it is important to read about it), Where Christ himself has actually appeared to the saints and has told them about it.

    And personally, When I asked Mother Mary to pray to God for me, it has worked-I told my best friend one time to say three hail mary’s because there were demons or devils that were scaring her in her room, she said it and she was able to sleep properly from memory.
    Ultimately-As God about it. If you truly have any doubts God will tell you.

  3. Ilma Coelho Bonesi

    HI,my name is Ilma .i living in Brasil
    I like still small voice ,very much (is very ipmportant to me )
    16years ago ,when I converted,I was praying the Ave Maria prayer,and when I said FULL OF GRACE I heard a still small voice repeating FULL OF GRCE
    I also had a dream ,where showed me all Mary in all forms ,but them I would highlight our lady of the Miraculus Medal
    This affected me a lot and I have asked Jesus a lot to clarify me
    Because I read some testimonies of people who were taken to the heaven ,and they tell us Mary is not mother intercession,but I have also read ,some testimonies of Saint who have already died ,shore that she is a great intercessior
    Please if you can answer em my email,a short answer so I can translate in google translate
    All this makes me very confused ,please helpe me
    I kiss for all ( also to Jesus ,because I love Jesus so much )
    Jesus save my family ,and all the peoples when I pray

    1. Carol Jennings Post author

      ALL of the people in Heaven are able to pray! Because of the purity and holiness of the Saints and Mary and the Apostles, they dwell nearer to the Throne of God than others – and they DO pray for us here on Earth. It is one of the joys of Heaven for them, to be as aligned with God and His Will in Heaven as it was on Earth. Family members don’t forget about us down here!

  4. Ilma Coelho

    So when the people pray to the Saint ,and Mary as king then to intercede with Jesus ,for them this is also a valid prayer ?

    1. Carol Jennings Post author

      We all go to people in our family, our church, our friends and ask them to pray for this and that situation in our lives. They love us, and want to pray with and for us. THEY have no power, except the power of interceding for and with you to the Lord. It is the same with those in Heaven. THEY are very much alive! And love their ‘family’ – you and I – here on Earth very much. So, the same happens. They hear us pray, asking them to join us in our petitions, and they add their prayers to ours to be presented to the Father. We are not praying TO them. But WITH them.

  5. Ilma coelho

    I had a long time stopped for Mary intercession,because I read many comments against ,but I also same many peoples who trust in their intercession ,and telling that is a valuable intercession
    Now I underestend that question better
    Thank you

  6. Ilma Coelho

    ,Hi Carol
    I dont speak inglish and no have opcion tradution
    This is Very important for many peoples
    Please Helpe,because i want Learn ,but i ken not underestend


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